Ernie Reinhardt – Lilo Wanders: “Love makes everything possible”

Before more than 20 yearshave n The last time they moderated as Lilo Wander “Wa (h) re love”. Does it bother you that for many people you are still the moderator of this sex show?

Not at all! That honors me! After all, I informed everyone who is over 35 years old today with “Wa (h) re love”. Many spectators are grateful to me that I have helped them find their sexual identity.

But “Wa (h) re love” not only cleared up. Wasn’t it primarily about voyeurism before pornography was always available everywhere?

It was about both. I was always aware that it was a commercial format. That is why we have reported on porn shoots, swinger clubs, penis size and all of these things. I never had a problem talking about sexuality.

What do you think of pornography yourself?

My relationship with porn is ambivalent. If everyone involved – and unfortunately it is not always – are with a clear mind and know what they do, pornography can be a normal business. But of course there are also bad crimes and exploitation in the industry. This is hideous and must be punished hard. Most of the actresses I met were reflected and knew what they were doing. That’s why my heart is big enough to say: If you really want to do it, it will do it. But are always aware that the soul can be blackened.

Is there good sex without love?

But yes! Sex with love is a celebrated feast. Sex without love like a detour into a snack bar or McDonald’s. Sometimes you have to breastfeed the hunger quickly. This cannot be sentenced at all – provided that everyone involved agrees and have fun.

She have now become 70. Is sex still so important?

Naturally! The great thing about sex in old age is: you can be so much more relaxed. All the ideals of beauty and guidelines no longer apply. It is all about being good, having an accomplice or accomplice and enjoying each other with a certain shamelessness.

In their just published book “Were you not even Lilo Wanders?” Do you write that you said on your 16th birthday of your family: “I am gay!” How did the family react?

“But we have known that long ago,” said my mother. I had run open gates. I didn’t look around, but I was just girlish. In my youth clique, too, I was already treated like a magic system and protected by everyone. Because the announcement on my 16th birthday was actually my second coming out. To accept yourself that you are gay is the first coming out. To tell others is the second coming out.

When did you disguise yourself as a woman for the first time?

During the children’s carnival, at the age of eight. I was initially recorded in the circle of girls without asking. Only when they checked that I wasn’t a girl at all was I outside. When I was eleven or twelve, I secretly made up for the first time. I rubbed rose petals on my cheeks and surrounded my eyes with burned -out matches. Suddenly my grandma came to my room without knocking. I put my head under the ceiling and she thought I was playing Indians.

What appealed at the time, what does she excite today to dress up as a woman?

I was a crouched child. Many hard blows of fate had attacked my self -esteem. I had little strength to find my own role out of myself. That is why I slipped into rolls early on, for example, as if I was my own twin to be able to communicate with people more impartially. That was the nucleus of my acting. The Figur Lilo Wanders later became my protective shield before life.

Her father was a small, hunched man who suffered from the consequences of paralysis. He died when they were four years old. Her younger brother Momme came along Contergan damage to the world and died at 17 months. At that time they were seven years old. They were beaten by the new partner of their mother. The money has often been scarce since her father’s death. After the heterosexual younger brother of a friend publicly referred to an erotic adventure with them as “fellow pity fuck”, they attempted suicide at the age of 18. Doesn’t sound like a carefree childhood and youth.

Until I was in the late twenties, I thought I had a really bad fate, and that was it too. The many consecutive deaths were sad and stressful. But when I look back on my life story with those of others, I have to say: I came out relatively unscathed.

As Lilo Wanders, they first performed in the Schmidt Theater on the Reeperbahn in 1988. Do you sometimes dress up privately as Lilo hikes?

No. The Lilo outfit is my work ok. When I turn into Lilo, I say: “Papa puts on the Blaumann and goes to layer.”

We come to politics. Bundestag president Julia Klöckner rejected this year to raise the rainbow flag on the Reichstag on the occasion of the Christopher Street Day. Chancellor Friedrich Merz jumped aside and said that the Reichstag was not a circus tent on which one can be raised. Is the mood towards queer people in Germany?

In terms of content, I don’t want to jump aside, but formally she is right. Otherwise, the corresponding flags at the Reichstag would have to be raised for all other celebrations. But of course the rainbow flag ban is an unfriendly gesture and shows what spirit child is. Anyone who feels and thinks sees how the situation in Germany intensifies for queer people. That worries me.

What specifically worries you?

That people rise above other people. Nobody is pending. I find it all the absurd that right politicians deal with the sexuality of their fellow human beings. This suggests that there is something in the Argen for you. I always say: “A oh.”

You have to Nowadays as a queer person in Germany or are still afraid?

I don’t want to hit the notch and so intensify the fear, but I know that there are queer people in Germany who are afraid. I recommend that you go through life with self -confidence and your head. This impresses and increases security.

Does the AfD rise to them?

I am afraid of stupidity that people simply take over things without questioning them that they fall on keywords without recognizing the lies that are often behind it. Even if some of the agitators are now eating chalk, we have to remain vigilant and be careful that these people never get power. Some AfD voters may only want to miss a memo for politics. It is often not clear to them what they could do with it.

Is Ernie Reinhardt feminist?

Yes. Every man should be a feminist so that the slightly larger half of humanity finally happens to justice.

Although they are gay, they married their wife Brigitte in 1985. In the meantime, they have been together for 40 years, have three adult children and three grandchildren. How do you lead a marriage to a woman as a gay or bisexual man for so long?

I don’t blew myself behind the protective shield “bisexual”. I am a gay man. Point. I used to be a girl in the boy, but I never wanted to be a woman physically and my desire always aimed at men.

Why have you been with a woman for 40 years?

Love makes everything possible. Maybe it was a karmic encounter that Brigitte and I met. Otherwise, our great children and grandchildren would not exist.

Your wife suffered a stroke in 2012, and since 2013 you have also been in a relationship with a man. Who do you live with? Her wife? Your partner? Both? Alone?

I always lived with my wife. That with my partner is a “thing about the left hand”. The relationship is very delightful, even if we don’t see each other often. But since we hardly ever make calls, we have a lot to tell ourselves when we come together. A lot of things always build up in every respect – and it is getting more and more beautiful.

In your book you write that you often doubt whether you are capable of deep love. Why do you think that?

Because I had to pack so much especially in my childhood and youth, I created a protective layer around me so as not to be completely thrown off the track when something fails or someone dies again. If something really had to shake me, I first drive on like on autopilot. I then realize that I displace something. For me, the ideal of love is when souls touch. But sometimes you have to spin a cocoon for your love so as not to break up with life or a disappointed love.

Are you happy?

Oh, luck. Often you have false hopes that happiness can be a long -lasting state, but it only lasts a few moments. For example, I can feel luck if I come home after an event, open the garden gate and see the stars flashing above me in the endless sky. Or when I look a little child in the eye and thus create an intimate connection between us for a short time.

Can and should you still change at the age of 70?

But yes! Absolutely! If someone has dragged a sack with problems with problems all their lives, you can still start therapy at 70 and change your living conditions completely. The older you get, the more knowledge you win, and every knowledge brings you further. I expect that I have at least 15 years before me. I want to make them as open and curiously as possible.